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Derek Suszko's avatar

I myself call it the “oppression of titillation” for which the only possible defense for the disaffected man is colossal narcissism.

Valkyrie Ziege's avatar

(**) Feminism & the climate change hoax go hand-in-hand.

Flashback 1958: Feminist icon Betty Friedan in Harper’s Mag warns of ‘The Coming Ice Age’.

https://www.climatedepot.com/2018/08/16/flashback-1958-feminist-icon-betty-friedan-in-harpers-mag-warns-of-the-coming-ice-age/

Keith Martin's avatar

All true, but this will ONLY stop when men collectively stop putting up with it. Documenting feminism ad nauseum will never end it, because women on their own will never stop perceiving that they benefit from it — and cowardly men will probably never stop enjoying feeling victimized or stop being too lazy to hold women accountable with something other than accurate but empty words.

Steve Brule's avatar

Speech is the most powerful weapon ever invented. Solid reasoning is necessary before social change can begin. What part are you playing?

Keith Martin's avatar

a. No shade whatsoever on your essay, Mr. Brule. I follow you because I value your thoughts, your speech.

b. I do observe on a regular basis, though, that no shortage exists of great thinkers and speakers when it comes to these issues between men and women.

c. Can't agree with you that speech is the most powerful weapon ever invented. It's way up there, which is why it's essential that we protect free speech, but that doesn't negate the fact that, as the cliche goes, "actions speak louder than words."

d. Not sure, because this is just the written form, so nuance is always dicey to determine, but if your, "What part are you playing?," reflects any defensiveness, I'm going to assert right here that there's no reason for you to feel defensive, because I wasn't casting aspersions in your direction. It was, again, a general comment based on a lifetime of observation that has rapidly accelerated in the age of social media and countless people jockeying to be top dogs in the Manosphere: lots of talk, and little action; in fact, to be blunt about it, most men who talk a lot out here don't walk the walk with their own women in their individual personal lives. They remain unconsciously shackled by feminism and are in the main still being led by their wives, girlfriends, mothers, sisters and daughters -- and in the process also failing to impart to their daughters the proper foundation for being respectfully-cooperative wives in their futures.

e. To partially answer your question, though, I do plead guilty to having spent the majority of my adult life perpetuating feminism myself, as well as to encouraging the insanity of an egalitarian relationship with my wife of 38 years, as well as tolerating far too many resulting destructive dynamics in our household and in regard to the training and discipline of our children.

f. On the other hand -- and to complete the answer -- I woke up several years ago and have made tremendous strides since then, including establishing myself as the head of my marriage and family, which has been no small task, because it has necessarily involved having to not only establish headship but undoing all the damage created by my acquiescence in the previous chaos.

g. That is my initial prescription for where men need to begin to ACT rather than just FLAP GUMS: self-examine and correct; assert headship over the women in one's life for whom one should be providing covering, protection and/or [in the case of wives] due benevolence. Never play into any scripts that call for gemstone engagement rings, queen-for-a-day weddings (that set the tone for male submission) or tolerating a sense of entitlement to exhibit female independence delusion when in reality no woman could survive without men, whereas men could survive 100 years without women -- missing them, of course, but not subject to the chaos that would ensue if men were to disappear from the planet.

h. And this is where I think the majority of Manosphere writing comes up short. LOTS of historical explanations about how we got here. LOTS of finger-pointing, some even toward men but mostly toward women, who will NEVER take accountability as a group. LOTS of pleas for compassion toward men and notifications about how high the male suicide rate is or how low the birthrate has become. LOTS of resignation, pessimism and justifications for becoming MGTOWs who just give up on having relationships. But a NEAR DEARTH of productive action plans for men, either individually or collectively -- as if we're all waiting for some governmental Magic Tooth Fairy to swoop in and fix this for us. The solutions won't be easy, and that's probably why it isn't popular to write about them, but they're not rocket science, either. The solutions aren't even complex; they're just going to involve standing tall, refusing to compromise, and being willing to watch every woman in one's life walk out the door if that's necessary. Even one's wife. Even one's mama. Even one's daughters and sisters. Because (1) the fact that men let women get away with being chaotic monsters who wrongfully believe they're superior to men is very likely behind almost every single thing that is going wrong in our world -- and has been one of the principle tools of the managerial class that weaponized useful-idiot women against the bulk of common men; and (2) men and women are dependent on each other for sex and reproduction, but WOMEN ARE DEPENDENT ON MEN FOR EVERYTHING ELSE. Everything.

i. Therefore, here is what every one of us should be doing with every woman in our lives -- and I assert that nothing we write will justify shirking this duty: ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO DO ONE FUCKING THINGS FOR ANY WOMAN IN ONE'S LIFE (1) who doesn't acknowledge that women couldn't survive without men -- they couldn't even perpetuate anything significant about any of the systems men have already set up for them; or (2) who doesn't articulate appreciation to the men in their life for what those men do for them individually and for what men collectively do for them; or (3) who doesn't respectfully cooperate with them (aka submission). In a sense, every time a man does even the smallest chore for any woman in his life when that woman fails to completely acknowledge his indispensability, or when that woman fails to demonstrate appreciation for how dependent she is on him, or when that woman fails to respectfully cooperate with him, THAT MAN IS BETRAYING HIS FELLOW MEN.

We can whine and complain -- and even be absolutely spot-on correct about it -- all day or all year or all-lifetime long -- but if we aren't willing to accentuate exactly who is dependent on whom, then we're really just spitting in the wind.

https://imnhvn.substack.com/p/the-logic-behind-my-masculinity-prescriptions

Steve Brule's avatar

I am thrilled to learn that you were able to turn your life around so dramatically.

I don't disagree with what you're saying. The role of writing is to provide the intellectual / philosophical groundwork from which positive action can grow. Without it, a man is likely to lash out without direction.

Having said that, action of course is necessary in order to improve one's life. I'm more interested in individual men improving their lives, than I am about large scale cultural change. Of course the two are connected, but that's a longer story.

Decades ago I realized that a man's superpower is the ability to say "no" and walk away, especially from women. As you mentioned, walk away from anyone, including ones wife and mother. I have repeatedly encouraged men to do this in many videos, essays, and interviews. This is something that every man can take to heart and commit to immediately. In fact I consider it the first step. It is so powerful that everything else is likely to fall in line afterwards.

Brian Pinchback's avatar

How many men sacrificed their lives for their country in WW1 and WW2 ? My question applies not only to the U.K. if you get my drift. In France for example, it was acceptable for a married man to have a mistress due to the shortage of fertile men that resulted from two WWs. Which of the two sexes fought for their country in the greatest number and paid for it with their lives ? Obviously it was men !

And yet the feminists complain about misogyny. These female feminist fraudsters need to be exposed.

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Brian Pinchback's avatar

A better question would be imo is "What was it that started WW1 and WW2 ?"

As far as I am concerned, sexual orientation had nothing to do with it.

I have another possible their cause which is related to culture rather than sex.

SeeC's avatar

« feminist cult for women with daddy issues » that funnily accurate. The question is how many women do not feature this problem. Very few of them in modern time it seems.

But I guess the worm was in the apple of previous generations, so it makes sense. It’s a castle built on quicksand, bound to fail at some point…

Brian Pinchback's avatar

"The female of the species is more deadly than the male". (Rudyard Kipling).

In the story as it unfolds, Nagaina the female cobra will do anything to protect her eggs.

Sound familiar ?

Phillip Hickox's avatar

Recently on F/B there are more and more topics appearing in my feed about "Women of History".

The trend is to portray women as being ignored or victimised.

Recent examples are a reel showing what happened to French female collaborators after WW11, as they had their heads shaved. Or the Suffragettes marching for the vote.

As usual, 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 women experience a lifetime instance of sexual violence/domestic violence/harassment.

Men who comment on these articles and challenge the narrative are immediately accused of "Hating Women", etc.

Stepping back, it seems to me that the increase in the publication of such articles is a new propaganda campaign to serve many purposes;

1) to stoke female rage

2) to bait men into responding

3) to justify the abuse of the male gender.

Stephen Hosking's avatar

I’ve seen this rising trend on fb also, ie. “Amazing woman who discovered/invented xxxx which changed the world, overcoming male prejudice, but who was erased from history - by men”. These get heaps of ❤️😭 and😡 from intelligent women AND MEN. Gullible idiots, who can’t detect a cliche which is distorted, at best, if not based on lies.

I normally scroll past, but one perked my interest because it was in my own field, computing, which I’ve known since 1979, ie. very close to the origins. The subject was Admiral Grace Hopper, a military woman who allegedly invented modern programming. I knew that she and her COBOL language were only bylines in the history, and not particularly innovative at the time (1950s). I responded with this, and got no engagement in the flood of “🙇🙇🙇 Grace Hopper”, and “Smash the patriarchy “. Amongst the usual crap a MAN reminded us that a woman couldn’t get a credit card in her own name until 1974 - which I also contested - on my own.

My general response to these things is that, even if it is true, so what? Society routinely ignores men who have made fundamental contributions. And rightly so - people are too busy with their own lives to go looking for undiscovered heroes from 50 years ago.

It’s Orwell’ 1984 - forever rewriting history, to suit the present.

Joesph J Esposito's avatar

I like to remind w0e-MEN that HIS-story means >HIS STORY

Phillip Hickox's avatar

<Amongst the usual crap a MAN reminded us that a woman couldn’t get a credit card in her own name until 1974 >

Thanks to Janice's expose', I was able to use it, and boy was the reaction very nasty.

Joesph J Esposito's avatar

Yes, it's bullshit, more like MEN were the ones being charged for w0e-MEN'S purchases, sounds like now, doesn't it?

Phillip Hickox's avatar

"Debtors' Prisons" are a reality that continues to this very day.

The male spouse is generally held responsible for the debts incurred by the female spouse.

Joesph J Esposito's avatar

I think that asshole in Florida DeSantis and also in Texas were floating a bill that would require MEN to pay child support before the child is even born from the moment of conception.

Phillip Hickox's avatar

From what I have read in the past, it would seem that the US is very draconian in chasing child support debt.

Steve Brule's avatar

I haven't heard about that. But I've long argued that men should not have children in the West. They should seek their family in a third world country, or a carefully crafted alternate relationship. I explained these options in the following video: https://youtu.be/OroZGioxPWs?si=v-OahUpbqy93PmCd

Stephen Hosking's avatar

>> I was able to use it, and boy was the reaction very nasty.

That's appalling! I was ignored, after dozens of people had agreed with the credit card falsehood, but to get a nasy reaction for exposing a common falsehood is disgraceful! What ever happened to truth being important???

Phillip Hickox's avatar

I beleive it has more to do with cognitive dissonance/conflict.

Having experienced cognitive dissonance myself, I understand the conflict when what you beleive to be true is being challenged and shown to be false.

There was an excellent article that demonstrated this: Chinese Students who come to Australia to study are presented with an alternative narrative that does not match what they were taught to be true. (sadly I don;t have the link)

Steve Brule's avatar

I started dealing directly with feminists in 2012. In 2014, Janice and I started the Fiamengo File series on Studio Brule YouTube channel, and feminists attacked regularly.

Feminists are so in love with the victim power provided by their fabricated history that they have reached a state of invincible ignorance. Nothing will get through.

Stephen Hosking's avatar

I also responded with information from Janice's excellent piece! Janice's research is particularly valuable, because it's hard to prove the absence of something, more than fifty years ago, ie. that women were not disciminated against.

Stephen Hosking's avatar

Ps. One thing to watch out for in these “Amazing woman” stories is that even if mostly true they’ll slip in one lie, to damage men. For example, a female doctor in the family posted the story of an important female anaesthetist (🎉🎊🙇). It included the statement that after qualifying as a surgeon she “was told that as a woman she’d never get a job as a surgeon in a hospital”, so switched to anaesthetics. This slipped through, because most people are inclined to believe it (thanks to feminism) and aren’t in a position to contest. I had to go to some trouble checking sources to a couple of levels to prove that it was a lie. Of course, proving the lie once, with effort, will not stop the same people posting more of the same crap. If anything, I’ve only proven that I “have an anti-woman agenda”.

Steve Brule's avatar

I've seen this same trend. I don't think it's going to end anytime soon. There are a lot of people making a lot of money off of these things. Feminists will spend all their energy attacking men in general, which limits the ability of ambitious men to threaten the truly powerful rich men at the top. This is why they fund feminism with trillions of dollars a year.

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Yep and it makes perfect sense. Women always side with the victors regardless of morals (which they do not seem to possess naturally) and what could be objectively analyzed as good or bad.

They won’t care if the men at the top are violent tyrants as long as they supports them. This is basically the role of today’s government.

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Steve Brule's avatar

Bye bye bimbo, go cherry pick elsewhere.

Phillip Hickox's avatar

I am glad I am not the only one who is noticing this change.

Frank's avatar

Indeed. Some of the rich and powerful men directly position themselves as the Pied Pipers of women. The gay man in San Francisco that runs the Tea dating app is a good example of that. I have filed a civil rights complaint in California against them - we will see what happens.

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Steve Brule's avatar

Oh gosh, I've upset another member of the feminist hate cult for women with daddy issues. Whatever will I do?

Oh I know, bye-bye bimbo.