A lot has been made about the dangers of porn and prostitution but very little attention has been given to the constant titillation that men are forced to endure in Western culture, which I believe is the more damaging of the three.
Uh ... I don't know, dude. I have always mainly dressed to be comfortable. If exercising outside or at the gym, that generally means staying cool which DOES generally require something like a tank top and shorts. Or, if one does not wish to wear shorts (I never did), then leggings, which move with one, are relatively cool, and do not shift, bunch, or ride up (especially important when doing yoga.)
Most women are taught by their mothers what not to wear in front of men if they don't want "that" kind of attention. Yet most women report being followed, ogled, or catcalled no matter what they wear. Especially if they were born with large boobs. What are we supposed to do, bind them up?
Jeez. It really must be tough for you young guys. In olden days a glimpse of stocking
was looked on as something shocking. Nowadays guys can't build bridges because they're distracted. I feel for you. More bridges and less hussies in garters and heels taunting you.
Porn/masturbation and prostitution are the *remedies* offered by our society for titillation. If he rejects them both, a young man is bound to have problems with titillation.
Porn and prostitution are the necessary safety valves in the system. I wouldn’t get rid of them - but if you wanted to get rid of them you’d have to get rid of titillation too.
The author is surely correct that we live in a quagmire of daily titillation, in large part created by algorithms which serve up endless prurient content for the male gaze.
Nearly everything else they say is the worst kind of misogynistic, and indeed, man-hating nonsense I’ve ever read. They seem to want to say that men are merely fallen angels, all capable of creating great beauty, art and engineering but who, at every turn, are thwarted by calculating, sexualised women who want nothing more than to drag men down to base desire. While women themselves, dependent on men for their worth do everything in pursuit of attracting through by debasing themselves. It’s does much to reduce humanity to supposed biological drives and makes men and women poorer in their depiction.
I'm saddened by this article which holds a number of really valuable insights, but goes way too far. There have always been women who act as you say, always will be. However your female DNA is and always has been to attract a male if heterosexual. Today's young girls are deeply confused as the first generation where their male peers can access porn on their phones, and are also pumped senseless that beauty and sexiness will help them get ahead, and let's be honest in today's Z rate celebrity culture, it does. Many of the girls you think of as manipulative will be deeply insecure and would love it if a button could be switched where they could be free of body/beauty scrutiny and just be accepted for who they are. The companies that have pushed this unobtainable agenda on men and women are more culpable than the girl with low self esteem who falls for the nonsense.
I'm no feminist, I'm a mum of two teenager girls and have often said, you're not wearing that. I don't think all women are as bad as you think and some are probably worse. I was a stay at home mum as I believe in roles in life. I never believed you could have it all, was happy to play the supporting role and would never try to compete with men because I'm very female. This is my first reply to a substack ever thanks for your article.
I am a man who agrees with the gist of this article, but I take your point too.
I would put it this way. Something has gone seriously wrong with the feminine. It's like the guard rails have been removed, and females are veering off into places that do harm to themselves and others. This is most obvious with teens/young women. Their sexual power suddenly erupts, and we no longer provide boundaries and guidance to help them navigate this period until their emotional maturity catches up.
Masculinity has a dark side, we all know that. But femininity does too. And modern culture feeds all the worst aspects of that dark side, The results of this are walking around my local supermarket borderline naked, while filming themselves on their phones. This is a very degenerate form of femininity, and we must collectively address this at some point.
My thinking has evolved on this matter. In the past I put the sole blame on women, but now I think that men are responsible too. I think women are looking for strong and wise male figures that will enforce boundaries with the woman's best interests at heart. Then they feel safe. Furthermore, if women don't get this from Western men, they will go seeking it elsewhere. Not a pleasant prospect.
This article points to a deep pathology in the modern West. At this point a corrective is well overdue.
Anyway, thanks for reading and have a good day everyone!
There was a time when all of this was described by one verb: cock-teasing. A colleague at work once illustrated it by making a symbolic vagina with thumbs and forefingers and claiming "This rules the world". Indeed it does, and the allegory of the Garden of Eden demonstrates that it was there right from the start.
It was bad enough when I experienced it all too much when I was younger. I just shrugged, stayed frustrated, and moved on. Except today it is far more dangerous for young men, as not only are their efforts criminalized, but it won't be long before their resistance is criminalized as well.
My genuine response to this article was nothing more than "holy shit dude." Unfortunately I am a guy who is afflicted with a comically high sex drive. Going out into this world is fun and exciting. I like boobs and butts at work. I like boobs and butts at the grocery store. It's a great distraction from the completely homogenized world I live in. Everywhere I go its the same stores, the same hybrid SUVs, the same food, the same types of people doing the same types of jobs. Everywhere. Beautiful women are the paint that brings color to this drab, gray landscape. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm out in nature or tending to my children. It is remarkably easy to avoid falling into the traps you mentioned if you are a married man who respects your vows. Let them cross all the lines, I don't care. Their behavior isn't on me, I drew a line I won't cross.
I think women do it because it is positively reinforced by the men around them. Many women no longer want to marry due to seeing what men reinforce in the market. Instead of admiration and respect, many women pity them. This was an interesting read. Although vague and general in nature and very much internet-based, there is some evidence of this in real life, but it is less common than the internet poses it as being- at least where I am. May God, through Christ, bless you.
You know, with so many women dressing like hoe's. It sets up those who DON'T even moreso. High quality women don't flaunt their body. They know their value and they keep it for their husbands. Yall see just seeing the abundance of trash. The high quality stuff is harder to find. Most of us are sheesh taken. If you're seeing trash, it's cuz you're hanging out where the trash hangs out... quality ladies don't hang out in bars and clubs on a Saturday night. We're in church on Sunday morning. We're already married with kids. We got married young. If you're wife is dressing like a hoe... well, you married a hoe!!! Think you're gonna change that promiscuous woman into a wife? Riiiiight. Did you ever read Proverbs 31? A wife of noble character, who can find? Character attracts character. If you have the goods, she'll be attracted to you. If you're sleeping around, dint be surprised when you're marrying a woman who has too. You reap what you sew. You want a virgin? Are you one? No? Think you're actually gonna get one? The quality of the woman you get days a lot about the quality of you as a man. So, the door swings both ways, boys. :/
Not at all David. It's about knowing the values of boundaries and others. I worked for my dad in payroll during university holidays. I wore a see through shirt one day - I liked it. He said - you work in an office full of men - would you like to be liked for your figure or your brain. A typical 21 year old response was - I'll wear what I choose. His response - I'll wait until you've reached a rational decision, I want to feel proud of you. Obviously I changed my shirt.
Parents too have a role to play in guiding youngsters on grooming development.
If you are diagnosed with prostate cancer, you will learn that your feminist pals in Congress made sure that there is 3 times more funding for breast cancer than prostate cancer.
Do you find the deliberate underfunding of prostate cancer funny? Or is it that you are unable to comprehend the magnitude of misandry? If so, there is a shelter full of cats waiting to keep you company.
These predatory women aren't about nurturing, they're about the opposite-- the destroying of lives. I can't tell you how sick I am of going to buy groceries with all of the Lulu lemmings in their skin tight pants. I feel really badly for the dudes there who are just trying to buy groceries--it has literally turned into a meat market.I was just at Disneyworld with my family, and everywhere we went, there were women doing their pouty lip vacation photos for social media. There was even a family with several daughters, and the Mom suggested they take a picture. All of the young girls did the pout instead of smiling. I'm so over all of it--it makes me embarassed to be female.
I know! The g-string bikini, ffs. Now, I’m 50 but we never did this. I was a 1990s girl and am horrified by how sexual yet unsexy young women appear now.
Personally, I find it deeply embarrassing and always have. My mother wearing high heels would fill me with shame. It’s so obvious! So, I don’t know that it’s power. It feels too cringe and obvious, even desperate.
Women showing cleavage at work is distracting even for other straight women.
I like that. Like they are competing to be porn stars (often for those who get off on ugliness and fat) rather than competing for elegance and poise: the things that attract more than just six inches of a man.
Uh ... I don't know, dude. I have always mainly dressed to be comfortable. If exercising outside or at the gym, that generally means staying cool which DOES generally require something like a tank top and shorts. Or, if one does not wish to wear shorts (I never did), then leggings, which move with one, are relatively cool, and do not shift, bunch, or ride up (especially important when doing yoga.)
Most women are taught by their mothers what not to wear in front of men if they don't want "that" kind of attention. Yet most women report being followed, ogled, or catcalled no matter what they wear. Especially if they were born with large boobs. What are we supposed to do, bind them up?
Thank you for demonstrating that you didn't understand the essay at all.
Jeez. It really must be tough for you young guys. In olden days a glimpse of stocking
was looked on as something shocking. Nowadays guys can't build bridges because they're distracted. I feel for you. More bridges and less hussies in garters and heels taunting you.
Great article. Says what SO needs to be said. Thanks.
Thanks you so much for the encouragement!
Porn/masturbation and prostitution are the *remedies* offered by our society for titillation. If he rejects them both, a young man is bound to have problems with titillation.
Porn and prostitution are the necessary safety valves in the system. I wouldn’t get rid of them - but if you wanted to get rid of them you’d have to get rid of titillation too.
The author is surely correct that we live in a quagmire of daily titillation, in large part created by algorithms which serve up endless prurient content for the male gaze.
Nearly everything else they say is the worst kind of misogynistic, and indeed, man-hating nonsense I’ve ever read. They seem to want to say that men are merely fallen angels, all capable of creating great beauty, art and engineering but who, at every turn, are thwarted by calculating, sexualised women who want nothing more than to drag men down to base desire. While women themselves, dependent on men for their worth do everything in pursuit of attracting through by debasing themselves. It’s does much to reduce humanity to supposed biological drives and makes men and women poorer in their depiction.
Everything in this article is true with links and references provided. Go slink back into your feminist hate cult hovel..
I'm saddened by this article which holds a number of really valuable insights, but goes way too far. There have always been women who act as you say, always will be. However your female DNA is and always has been to attract a male if heterosexual. Today's young girls are deeply confused as the first generation where their male peers can access porn on their phones, and are also pumped senseless that beauty and sexiness will help them get ahead, and let's be honest in today's Z rate celebrity culture, it does. Many of the girls you think of as manipulative will be deeply insecure and would love it if a button could be switched where they could be free of body/beauty scrutiny and just be accepted for who they are. The companies that have pushed this unobtainable agenda on men and women are more culpable than the girl with low self esteem who falls for the nonsense.
I'm no feminist, I'm a mum of two teenager girls and have often said, you're not wearing that. I don't think all women are as bad as you think and some are probably worse. I was a stay at home mum as I believe in roles in life. I never believed you could have it all, was happy to play the supporting role and would never try to compete with men because I'm very female. This is my first reply to a substack ever thanks for your article.
I am a man who agrees with the gist of this article, but I take your point too.
I would put it this way. Something has gone seriously wrong with the feminine. It's like the guard rails have been removed, and females are veering off into places that do harm to themselves and others. This is most obvious with teens/young women. Their sexual power suddenly erupts, and we no longer provide boundaries and guidance to help them navigate this period until their emotional maturity catches up.
Masculinity has a dark side, we all know that. But femininity does too. And modern culture feeds all the worst aspects of that dark side, The results of this are walking around my local supermarket borderline naked, while filming themselves on their phones. This is a very degenerate form of femininity, and we must collectively address this at some point.
My thinking has evolved on this matter. In the past I put the sole blame on women, but now I think that men are responsible too. I think women are looking for strong and wise male figures that will enforce boundaries with the woman's best interests at heart. Then they feel safe. Furthermore, if women don't get this from Western men, they will go seeking it elsewhere. Not a pleasant prospect.
This article points to a deep pathology in the modern West. At this point a corrective is well overdue.
Anyway, thanks for reading and have a good day everyone!
There was a time when all of this was described by one verb: cock-teasing. A colleague at work once illustrated it by making a symbolic vagina with thumbs and forefingers and claiming "This rules the world". Indeed it does, and the allegory of the Garden of Eden demonstrates that it was there right from the start.
It was bad enough when I experienced it all too much when I was younger. I just shrugged, stayed frustrated, and moved on. Except today it is far more dangerous for young men, as not only are their efforts criminalized, but it won't be long before their resistance is criminalized as well.
My genuine response to this article was nothing more than "holy shit dude." Unfortunately I am a guy who is afflicted with a comically high sex drive. Going out into this world is fun and exciting. I like boobs and butts at work. I like boobs and butts at the grocery store. It's a great distraction from the completely homogenized world I live in. Everywhere I go its the same stores, the same hybrid SUVs, the same food, the same types of people doing the same types of jobs. Everywhere. Beautiful women are the paint that brings color to this drab, gray landscape. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm out in nature or tending to my children. It is remarkably easy to avoid falling into the traps you mentioned if you are a married man who respects your vows. Let them cross all the lines, I don't care. Their behavior isn't on me, I drew a line I won't cross.
I think women do it because it is positively reinforced by the men around them. Many women no longer want to marry due to seeing what men reinforce in the market. Instead of admiration and respect, many women pity them. This was an interesting read. Although vague and general in nature and very much internet-based, there is some evidence of this in real life, but it is less common than the internet poses it as being- at least where I am. May God, through Christ, bless you.
It is the worsening of the male condition in the culture that causes women to pity men (or shame and disrespect them) rather than admire them.
Did Andrew Tate ghostwrite this?
Do YOU show off your breasts in public to gain attention?
"When you can't argue with the content, try the smear tactic," says every feminist.
PS. Tate can't write like this.
If women are the log burning in the fire, its cuz men keep adding the wood to the fire.
no, by showing off their breasts in public, women are the ones adding wood to the fire.
You know, with so many women dressing like hoe's. It sets up those who DON'T even moreso. High quality women don't flaunt their body. They know their value and they keep it for their husbands. Yall see just seeing the abundance of trash. The high quality stuff is harder to find. Most of us are sheesh taken. If you're seeing trash, it's cuz you're hanging out where the trash hangs out... quality ladies don't hang out in bars and clubs on a Saturday night. We're in church on Sunday morning. We're already married with kids. We got married young. If you're wife is dressing like a hoe... well, you married a hoe!!! Think you're gonna change that promiscuous woman into a wife? Riiiiight. Did you ever read Proverbs 31? A wife of noble character, who can find? Character attracts character. If you have the goods, she'll be attracted to you. If you're sleeping around, dint be surprised when you're marrying a woman who has too. You reap what you sew. You want a virgin? Are you one? No? Think you're actually gonna get one? The quality of the woman you get days a lot about the quality of you as a man. So, the door swings both ways, boys. :/
Absolute anti feminist claptrap.
Not at all David. It's about knowing the values of boundaries and others. I worked for my dad in payroll during university holidays. I wore a see through shirt one day - I liked it. He said - you work in an office full of men - would you like to be liked for your figure or your brain. A typical 21 year old response was - I'll wear what I choose. His response - I'll wait until you've reached a rational decision, I want to feel proud of you. Obviously I changed my shirt.
Parents too have a role to play in guiding youngsters on grooming development.
The 'slut look' is never/will never be classy.
If you are diagnosed with prostate cancer, you will learn that your feminist pals in Congress made sure that there is 3 times more funding for breast cancer than prostate cancer.
lol
Do you find the deliberate underfunding of prostate cancer funny? Or is it that you are unable to comprehend the magnitude of misandry? If so, there is a shelter full of cats waiting to keep you company.
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These predatory women aren't about nurturing, they're about the opposite-- the destroying of lives. I can't tell you how sick I am of going to buy groceries with all of the Lulu lemmings in their skin tight pants. I feel really badly for the dudes there who are just trying to buy groceries--it has literally turned into a meat market.I was just at Disneyworld with my family, and everywhere we went, there were women doing their pouty lip vacation photos for social media. There was even a family with several daughters, and the Mom suggested they take a picture. All of the young girls did the pout instead of smiling. I'm so over all of it--it makes me embarassed to be female.
I know! The g-string bikini, ffs. Now, I’m 50 but we never did this. I was a 1990s girl and am horrified by how sexual yet unsexy young women appear now.
Personally, I find it deeply embarrassing and always have. My mother wearing high heels would fill me with shame. It’s so obvious! So, I don’t know that it’s power. It feels too cringe and obvious, even desperate.
Women showing cleavage at work is distracting even for other straight women.
> Women showing cleavage at work is distracting even for other straight women.
Somebody had to say it!
"sexual yet unsexy"
I like that. Like they are competing to be porn stars (often for those who get off on ugliness and fat) rather than competing for elegance and poise: the things that attract more than just six inches of a man.
This is why you refuse to date and or marry most western women. Go abroad and see the women there. Once you see them, you can’t unsee them